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Post by Spike Kane on Sept 4, 2007 6:14:29 GMT -6
Feedback please guys?
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Jack Manson
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Post by Jack Manson on Sept 4, 2007 9:29:43 GMT -6
Good roleplay dude.
Only one complaint and that is you mentioned Manson choking himself and talking to himself. There are no camera's in my roleplays so how would Spike know that? Tony certainly didn't tell him.
I said in my feedback also that I should have mentioned Manson was talking in his head to the voice. Not out loud, my bad.
I would appreciate it if you would change this section:
"THEN you start talking to yourself and begin choking yourself!? I hate to sound like a rip off here but...whats up with that!?"
Simply because there is NO way Spike could have known that. I don't mean to be a pain it's just something for me to go off of at the moment, nobody else.
I'll let the heart attack comment slide, things like that do have a way of getting out. I'll work off that in my next roleplay so it fits in with your's.
Cheers.
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Post by Adam on Sept 4, 2007 11:44:44 GMT -6
Good roleplay dude. Only one complaint and that is you mentioned Manson choking himself and talking to himself. There are no camera's in my roleplays so how would Spike know that? Tony certainly didn't tell him. I said in my feedback also that I should have mentioned Manson was talking in his head to the voice. Not out loud, my bad. I would appreciate it if you would change this section: "THEN you start talking to yourself and begin choking yourself!? I hate to sound like a rip off here but...whats up with that!?" Simply because there is NO way Spike could have known that. I don't mean to be a pain it's just something for me to go off of at the moment, nobody else. I'll let the heart attack comment slide, things like that do have a way of getting out. I'll work off that in my next roleplay so it fits in with your's. Cheers. For most people it's automatically assumed that if it's posted as a roleplay there is a camera there somehow viewing the events. "The Camera"is sorta an omnipotent being in the efed world, when you post a roleplay then somehow someway everybody else has a means of viewing the events. You can't post a roleplay then tell everybody "Sorry but you can't mention it because there were no camera's there." In fact somebody did a roleplay a few weeks back I'm not going to name names or say what happened in it but it was very bad, the act he commited was enough to get him sent to jail.. why? because the omnipotent efed camera was there and saw it all, as soon as you start a roleplay that's the second the nCw camera turns on and everybody can see it. So if you take a woman into your hotel room and rape her, you're going to jail because you were just on camera, for example. Think of real life many times WWE will be inside somebody's hotel room or something like that recording what is going on, the person isn't cutting a promo to another wrestler or anything like that but the camera is there catching what's going on. In real life somebody wouldn't allow that camera in there to view their personal life. That's also how the efed "camera"works, if you do a roleplay then you turned the "camera"on.
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Jack Manson
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Post by Jack Manson on Sept 4, 2007 12:39:51 GMT -6
But not all roleplays use camera's. There is no mandatory law that states a roleplay must be witness to the whole world at all. If there is i've never come across it before. I try and make an effort as to when a camera is used or when information can be passed on to the rest of the roster. Like in my latest one the interaction with Tony in the hotel was just them two, but Manson's interview for a nCw magazine article was the bit where I openly spoke about Manson's opponents and gave his thoughts and opinions on the up-coming events. If I didn't do that I would lose steam very quickly and get bored of the roleplay, not to mention it would be short.
I've always done my roleplays in two sections. One being Jack Manson the wrestler and the other being Jack Manson the normal everyday guy facing real problems like his dad suffering a heart attack, living in a hotel because he doesn't wanna commit to buying a house just yet incase circumstances for him change etc. But when Jack is on a plane with a close friend by themselves, and a thousand miles in the sky, being manipulated by this voice thing, i don't expect anybody be able to witness that unless they are able to fly.
I can accept things like news of a heart attack coming out. A simple concept could have been created where news came out that Manson's manager called Leonard Fox and informed him of the news, thus Fox passing the news on to his daughter, who then informs the rest of the Empire. Things like that can happen I have no problem with that.
I'm sorry if i'm coming off as a jerk here but it's something I would like to have as a secret to Jacks character for now so I am still requesting it be changed.
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Post by Adam on Sept 4, 2007 15:50:44 GMT -6
But not all roleplays use camera's. There is no mandatory law that states a roleplay must be witness to the whole world at all. If there is i've never come across it before. I try and make an effort as to when a camera is used or when information can be passed on to the rest of the roster. Like in my latest one the interaction with Tony in the hotel was just them two, but Manson's interview for a nCw magazine article was the bit where I openly spoke about Manson's opponents and gave his thoughts and opinions on the up-coming events. If I didn't do that I would lose steam very quickly and get bored of the roleplay, not to mention it would be short. I've always done my roleplays in two sections. One being Jack Manson the wrestler and the other being Jack Manson the normal everyday guy facing real problems like his dad suffering a heart attack, living in a hotel because he doesn't wanna commit to buying a house just yet incase circumstances for him change etc. But when Jack is on a plane with a close friend by themselves, and a thousand miles in the sky, being manipulated by this voice thing, i don't expect anybody be able to witness that unless they are able to fly. I can accept things like news of a heart attack coming out. A simple concept could have been created where news came out that Manson's manager called Leonard Fox and informed him of the news, thus Fox passing the news on to his daughter, who then informs the rest of the Empire. Things like that can happen I have no problem with that. I'm sorry if i'm coming off as a jerk here but it's something I would like to have as a secret to Jacks character for now so I am still requesting it be changed. I'm trying to be nice and not come off as a jackarse but, I did say "Omnipotent "camera"" Anyway... I'll discuss it more with you on messenger.
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Post by Spike Kane on Sept 5, 2007 5:16:45 GMT -6
Erm, ok...whereas I agree with Leonard 100% I'm not going to change it. Not because I'm an asshole, but because...if the cameras weren't there, it wouldn't have happened.
I just wanna say my peice though. Leonard is write, if it's written then people can "see" it, otherwise there's no point writing it. Obviously things like what the "voice" is saying to Jack, nobody would know because it's all thoughts. Some people sometimes write a roleplay that is all thought. I did one not too long ago, and my opponent roleplayed back saying "Why did Spike just sit in a room for fifteen minutes?"
The stuff that you add, that you don't want being mentioned is character development.
If it's gonna come down to saying which parts of your roleplay we can and can't mention, things will get old and boring, and probably not nice, very quickly.
Please don't take offence, this isn't a shot at you, I just don't see it as fair to myself or the other guys.
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Jack Manson
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Post by Jack Manson on Sept 5, 2007 7:31:13 GMT -6
I spoke with Leonard on MSN and discussed my roleplays. I am going to roleplay as if there is a camera following Manson around all the time, even though I think it's a stupid idea because it isn't big brother and camera's dont constantly follow people like Cena around all day everyday. I understand where you're both coming from and i'd rather nip any future problems down the line, in the bud now.
Yeah that voice thing is character development, but I like mixing promo's and development in the same roleplay. I don't have time nor the creative energy to write 2 or 3 promo's and then back it up with a ton of developmental roleplays. That's not how I work. Roleplays that are just promo cutting is boring to me, I tell a continuous story in my roleplays like a novel.
If you are keeping that section in then so be it. I can accept it and i'll just have to work off of it now.
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Post by Spike Kane on Sept 5, 2007 13:12:42 GMT -6
I didn't mean to imply you do either rp or development. To me the best kind of roleplay is one for your upcoming match AND developmental at the same time, which is what you've been doing, so don't worry about that dude.
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