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Post by Angel on Jun 21, 2008 10:51:18 GMT -6
All of WWE's ratings have been going down over the last few months, while TNA basically stays the same.
I'd like to know what all of you think would bring the fans back, to Raw, Smackdown, or even ECW.
I'll say this, I'd watch Raw if Jeff Hardy were rebuilt for the main event, and went on to defeat Triple H in a mat classic to win the world title. Also I'd watch Raw if CM Punk were put on Raw, turned heel and used the money in the bank to try and blind side Jeff Hardy right after winning said World Title or HHH I guess. Then putting all three in a mega feud of epic proportions, that I'd like to see last at least a couple of months like TNA tends to do with their feuds. And eventually Jeff Hardy would come out on top with the World Title.
I'm pretty sure nothing could make me watch Smackdown. I hate Batista, Taker needs to retire, and Edge should be on Raw. MVP is being wasted, Matt Hardy is being wasted. And anyone I'm not mentioning from Samckdown, they don't bare mentioning.
ECW, I think they could save ECW, but they need to start promoting it more as it's own thing. I say keep it a one hour show, fire all the extra slack they have, and move over some Smackdown talent more permanently to ECW and turn it into a real show. I say Edge, Matt Hardy, MVP all to ECW. Shannon Moore and Jimmy Wang Yang to ECW. Keep Kane, Chavo, Dreamer, Shelton, Kofi, Knox, Miz, Morrison. Move from Raw... Say Carlito and Super Crazy. Give Raw Elijah, Striker, Big Show. Then push it as a legitimate show, one hour, and everyone has to bust their ass to get to the ECW world title. I think with that roster of about fifteen, ECW could be a watchable and even enjoyable show.
With some of those moves, roster changes, and the dropping of Smackdown, Raw and ECW, I think would improve greatly. Raw would have in it's main event talen, HHH, Jeff Hardy, CM Punk, HBK, Big Show, Batista, Cena, Orton, the possiblities would be endless.
As a TNA mark, I feel there are things they could do different or better, but overall I like what I see. I just wish they would hire RVD, Sandman, Sabu and Lashly. I think those four men could help bring in TNA some more ratings, making for some more interesting feuds. I also think TNA needs a one hour, secondary show where they could predominantly push the Knockouts and the X-Division, saving Impact for the main event and the heavy weights, like it pretty much is anyways.
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Post by JFK on Jun 21, 2008 12:47:22 GMT -6
RVD, Sandman, Sabu and Lashly
RVD only for TNA they have a big enough roster as it is, they need to concentrate more on their x division, and they need to fire their two announcers. and they need to stop rehashing old wcw stories.
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Post by Ricky Johnson on Jun 21, 2008 14:25:23 GMT -6
WWE cannot save it's ratings because the emphasis isn't on the "wrestling" part of WWE, it's on the "Entertainment". They push guys who can get over on the mic, and on look. Wrestling ability is sprinkled in amongst the guys the internet community likes. guys like Punk, Shelton, Even Bourne, Kofi, Morrison, The Hardyz, and MVP have to wallow in the mid-card of death pool, guys like Cena, Khali, Batista, HHH, and now, for some reason, Lance Cade are pushed to the top. (Although HHH has a totally different reason for being on top.)
The Draft should help a small bit, but the main guys will stay put, the big tradeoff would probably be HHH for Taker, but HHH seems to be a locker room cancer wherever he goes. He took Shane's job when Vince retires, so whereever he ends up, he's gonna be the booker. I suspect that Raw will lose Carlito and Umaga. I would say they're gone. Carlito is unhappy and should have gone to TNA when he had the chance. He will continue to suffer, mainly because he was the only guy with enough ball to call HHH out for being a top star only due to his marriage. I doubt they will keep him on Raw. On the blue brand, he may get a title shot. Umaga has been rumored for some time, and will probably go.
Smackdown may make the biggest moves, but I doubt any major improvement will be made, Batista is going to beat Edge at some point, and Taker isn't returning until Summerslam. gaining Umaga and Carlito, helps, but as long as Batista and Taker are around, The two top spots are theirs. Edge could use a good number 2, but WWE is cold toward MVP, and I don't buy Chavo as that big of threat, even as good as he is. Umaga seems to fit the bill. Carlito may be headed to US title land.
ECW has been steadiliy improving in my eyes, minus Mike Adamle. Miz and Morrison are becoming the best tag team WWE has, CM Punk must have forgotten he's the money in the bank guy since he's been teaming with Kane for about a month. I'm not thrilled with Big Show/Kane match #248583, but Kane and Show seem to get by. Evan Bourne (Matt Sydal), Shelton Benjamin, Kofi Kingston, John Morrison, and CM Punk represent the best wrestlers, perhaps in the whole company, besides Jericho, MVP, and Shawn Michaels. If ECW lands another big time wrestler like a Jericho or even a dark horse like Charlie Haas, they could be the show that Angel was speaking about.
If WWE focused on the wrestling more than the entertainment, they'd be ok. Remember back when Austin and The Rock fueded in '99? The emphasis on the storyline was good, but the wrestling match lived up to the hype. Or Angle/Benoit in '03? good stuff because the wrestlers were there. compare that to Cena/...anybody now a days and you can draw your own conclusion.
TNA
TNA's biggest problem is they are trying to copy what fails at WWE. Mainly that's because of Vince Russo. Anyhoo, Not pushing the X division and Knockouts puts them at peril. Back in '03-'04 TNA emphasised it's wrestling. But now that it's littered with ex-WWE guys, It's more about the entertainment. There's only so long that Ex-WWE guys, Samoa Joe, and AJ styles can push the show. They just need to be saved for the main events like Angel said. Instead, they start the show, are in the middle, and at the end, with X division and Knockouts squeezed in. It's a two hour show, and the big name guys are abused during the tapings. TNA will struggle as long as Russo just tweaks old WWE ideas, and they don't push the wrestling. Mike Teney is fine as a color guy, but play-by-play is not his thing. Don West blows. Maybe they should hire Tony Shavonie, and give Mike Teney a break from doing both play by play and color man. Don West just takes up space.
that's my two cents
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Post by Angel on Jun 21, 2008 19:49:26 GMT -6
I pretty much agree with everything you said. And your last bit about TNA is exactly why they need a secondary show exclusivly for the X-Division and the Knockouts.
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Post by Alex Jones on Jun 22, 2008 17:04:19 GMT -6
nothing can save WWE, Vince doesn't realise that the wrestling business has come full circle. People want good matches not good stories. Of course if they could combine the two great...there have been good signs on ECW with the Shelton/Kofi fued, and Matt Sydal's appearance, even if they renamed him Evan Bourne.
Raw needs to get rid of cena, I'm sorry but all the 7 and 8 year olds need to learn sooner or later that loving something like pro wrestling doesn't mean you can do it. Lets face it cena is boring, sure he's talented on the mic but put him in a match longer than five minutes and I turn RAW off
Smackdown needs to get rid of eddie's wife, jesus the woman is annoying how the **** did eddie stay married to a woman with a voice like that, not to mention here she is on a TV show her husband worked for making out with a guy who's a known woman stealer?
And as for TNA, well they're starting to bring back the X-Division..it's all started with the X-Cup, and AJ Styles is being emphasised as a star again, especially since half of the last impact was about AJ getting revenge
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Post by Xavier Williams on Jun 22, 2008 17:18:10 GMT -6
nothing can save WWE, Vince doesn't realise that the wrestling business has come full circle. People want good matches not good stories. Of course if they could combine the two great...there have been good signs on ECW with the Shelton/Kofi fued, and Matt Sydal's appearance, even if they renamed him Evan Bourne. Raw needs to get rid of cena, I'm sorry but all the 7 and 8 year olds need to learn sooner or later that loving something like pro wrestling doesn't mean you can do it. Lets face it cena is boring, sure he's talented on the mic but put him in a match longer than five minutes and I turn RAW offSmackdown needs to get rid of eddie's wife, jesus the woman is annoying how the f**k did eddie stay married to a woman with a voice like that, not to mention here she is on a TV show her husband worked for making out with a guy who's a known woman stealer? And as for TNA, well they're starting to bring back the X-Division..it's all started with the X-Cup, and AJ Styles is being emphasised as a star again, especially since half of the last impact was about AJ getting revenge Dude... 2006 called, they want their complaints back. As for saving, TNA NEEDS it... They NEEDED more stars... they pull their contracts They NEEDED a network channel... they got Spike TV They NEEDED primetime... they got a primetime slot They NEEDED 2 Hours... they got 2 Hours TNA has gotten everything they needed... they NEED to: Fire Russo Put Cornette and Tenay with Booking Possibly hire Heyman Tell Jarrett to GROW SOME ****ING BALLS AND TELL DIXIE AND DUTCH TO SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE!
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Post by JFK on Jun 22, 2008 17:19:12 GMT -6
see i might be a bit spoiled, with tivo i skip past all the crap lol
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Post by Alex Jones on Jun 22, 2008 18:51:02 GMT -6
Yes I'm aware everyone has been bitching about cena for years..but HE WONT GO AWAY!
and as for RAW well..I have an idea...
They should get Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase Jr, Randy Orton, British Bulldog's son and teddy hart...put them together and have them decimate veterans like HBK, Jericho, HHH etc....have a second generation stable that actually ends up doing something
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