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Post by Malcolm Reed on Aug 4, 2009 10:39:05 GMT -6
Jeremy Piven and Dr. Ken turning heel was awesome as well as the bump that left him on the floor.
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Post by Jabari Woodhead on Aug 4, 2009 12:50:00 GMT -6
Raw pretty much sucked. I think next week it should be Piven and Dr. Ken vs. Shaq
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Post by adm on Aug 4, 2009 14:04:46 GMT -6
Seriously: From all accounts this was the worst Raw in a very long time. And the fact that Miz is now "banned from Raw and SummerSlam" oh great...I'm just WAITING for them to fire him now...and he's one of the better heels as far as mike work goes and he has improved a LOT in the ring working with Morrison. I'm sorry, but just cuz he's a former reality TV star doesn't mean he is a completely useless asset for WWE, he's actually gotten really good in the ring(as good or better than what they let Cena do), but virtually killing him on Raw was a bad move.
And people wonder why WWE ratings are tanking lately...look at the booking...and yet they (Vince and writing staff) have the gall to say they "don't have any good young talent"...preposterous, they just don't USE it...and when they do, they bury them to Cena/Trips so much it's mind boggling...and the new guys they let shine...are roidfreaks like Swagger/Masters/Etc.
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Post by JFK on Aug 4, 2009 16:01:10 GMT -6
Swagger a roid freak? Stretching it a bit there Jeff.
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Post by adm on Aug 4, 2009 16:06:42 GMT -6
Swagger a roid freak? Stretching it a bit there Jeff. I was commenting on the general size of most of the guys they push...give the little guys a chance to shine...come on.
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Post by Nick Logan on Aug 4, 2009 16:18:40 GMT -6
they put freaking TBJ/CR over Trips last night....which I thought was a good move....they push the crap out of Legacy!
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Post by adm on Aug 4, 2009 16:49:42 GMT -6
Legacy seems to be the only guys that get pushed that are smaller...oh wait, they are LEGACY...aka kids of former famous guys like Rhodes and Dibiase...guess the rest need to get famous parents too.
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Post by Xavier Williams on Aug 4, 2009 17:25:06 GMT -6
Swagger a roid freak? Stretching it a bit there Jeff. I was commenting on the general size of most of the guys they push...give the little guys a chance to shine...come on. Bourne went over Swagger clean last week. Kofi is still champ, CM Punk and Hardy? Morrison? A lot of the main eventers are small guys... so... stop hyperventilating whenever someone loses. RAW is pretty much booked erratic, the matches are good, but the direction is... lacking. As for Miz, he goes to ECW or SD! gets his heat back and goes back to RAW that is the cycle of WWE, Punk went through it, Matt and Jeff, Swagger and Bourne are in the middle of it, Y2J... what happened to the miz is nothing new. And to be honest, did you REALLY think Miz was gonna go over Cena, that is like Hexx going over Adam.
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Post by Joe Everyman on Aug 4, 2009 17:27:01 GMT -6
I was commenting on the general size of most of the guys they push...give the little guys a chance to shine...come on. Bourne went over Swagger clean last week. Kofi is still champ, CM Punk and Hardy? Morrison? A lot of the main eventers are small guys... so... stop hyperventilating whenever someone loses. RAW is pretty much booked erratic, the matches are good, but the direction is... lacking. As for Miz, he goes to ECW or SD! gets his heat back and goes back to RAW that is the cycle of WWE, Punk went through it, Matt and Jeff, Swagger and Bourne are in the middle of it, Y2J... what happened to the miz is nothing new. And to be honest, did you REALLY think Miz was gonna go over Cena, that is like Hexx going over Adam. Amen brother
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Post by Leonard Fox on Aug 4, 2009 17:30:33 GMT -6
WWE Sucks the end. **walks away into the distance** Maybe I should watch it?.... no.... no I shant.
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Post by Malcolm Reed on Aug 4, 2009 19:28:54 GMT -6
I was really into the Miz until he was moved to raw now I can't care about him at all...
Swagger is awesome and I enjoy Chris Masters...
Raw is what is, I prefer to watch ECW and Smackdown
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Post by Bryten Bourne on Aug 4, 2009 19:52:51 GMT -6
They need to get rid of ECW as a brand and turn it into a huge PPV extrazaganza.
Then they need to throw all the superstars together and have a live draft with trades, reactions etc.
it would shake things up and make them interesting.
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Post by Curtis D. Kanyon on Aug 4, 2009 22:07:07 GMT -6
I like ECW, but not that it's called ECW. It really should be called something else by now.
As for Raw, it was okay. I liked that Piven was really into the role, even if he wasn't good at it. The Asian guy was annoyingly funny. Raw's never been the "promote the young guys" show, so it's probably better that Miz is going to move to Smackdown or ECW, where they actually are doing that.
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Post by Tommy Victor on Aug 5, 2009 4:11:43 GMT -6
The new ECW is about building new stars and re-invigorating old ones.
Just like the old ECW actually. The PG rating, lack of hardcore matches, and edginess are probably peoples biggest problem with the show. I really care about good wrestling and it delivers...the Extreme Rules match on Tuesday was good as well.
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Post by Jimmy Zane on Aug 5, 2009 7:48:10 GMT -6
But sometimes...not often..but sometimes..... something incredibly entertaining comes out of RAW....
Exhibit A:
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Post by scab on Aug 5, 2009 7:57:45 GMT -6
I'm getting rather sick of John Cena and HHH being in the main event of every single Raw. And I HATE John Cena....wish he would go to Smackdown or something.
I was just telling my brother last night that TDJ would be better off out of the Legacy and on his own, if he would have beaten Randy Orton...you have you another GREAT young talent right there. I actually believe TDJ is a better wrestler than Orton.
I like Miz, I wish they would have gotten him over Cena. He is improving with every match he wrestles.
The only thing I'm really interested in....and I hate to say this...but the return of EDGE! I'm crossing my fingers because you never know what bone head move WWE will make next....I'm hoping Edge comes back as a face....and challenges Jericho and Big Show....and "searches" for him a tag team partner.
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For those of you with flash photography..........EDGE AND CHRISTIAN TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!
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Post by adm on Aug 5, 2009 9:33:20 GMT -6
I'm getting rather sick of John Cena and HHH being in the main event of every single Raw. And I HATE John Cena....wish he would go to Smackdown or something. I was just telling my brother last night that TDJ would be better off out of the Legacy and on his own, if he would have beaten Randy Orton...you have you another GREAT young talent right there. I actually believe TDJ is a better wrestler than Orton. I like Miz, I wish they would have gotten him over Cena. He is improving with every match he wrestles. The only thing I'm really interested in....and I hate to say this...but the return of EDGE! I'm crossing my fingers because you never know what bone head move WWE will make next....I'm hoping Edge comes back as a face....and challenges Jericho and Big Show....and "searches" for him a tag team partner. ........................................... For those of you with flash photography..........EDGE AND CHRISTIAN TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS!!!!!!! God we can only hope...we can only hope...
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Post by Xavier Williams on Aug 5, 2009 10:13:07 GMT -6
Why would Christian go back to teaming with Edge, he spent like 5 years just trying to breakaway from that tag team stigma...?
as for complaints on cena and Trips... let's face it RAW has been ona string of bad luck at rotating that Main Event scene
Batista gets injured which cuts short HHH's break
Kennedy gets released b/c he's unsafe
Vince is off his rocker (which is GREAT for SD!)
HHH/Orton not delivering which leads to Cena being added in as he proves to be the better match for both.
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Post by Spike Kane on Aug 6, 2009 17:20:59 GMT -6
I'm a Triple H fan and I'm getting tired of him.
The Miz however is *** damn awesome! I would love to see the Miz pushed properly, here is a guy who has worked so hard to get to where he is. Do you not think that he's had to work harder than some guys just to prove to his own peers that he deserves to be where he is?
Plus his whole anti-Cena thing made me fall in love with him. Maybe CM Punk will start up a new faction like he did in FIW and draft The Miz into it? It could be fun, I just wanted Punk to smash Hardy's face in. XD
I only really watch ppv's nowadays though, and I NEVER pay for them
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Post by JFK on Aug 6, 2009 17:35:34 GMT -6
kennedy isnt unsafe, orton jumped too hard and had a diva moment in the back.
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Post by Xavier Williams on Aug 6, 2009 17:46:59 GMT -6
Never mind his countless injuries in a relativly short span, and injuring the top draw (Cena), Kennedy, at the time, isn't worth the risk... maybe if he goes out and proves he has gotten more durable than I can see him going back...
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Post by wewklaus on Aug 8, 2009 6:27:44 GMT -6
WWE = Big pie of Meh. TNA = WWE knock off's RoH = Excellence.
That's how I see it.
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Post by Daredevil on Aug 8, 2009 14:58:47 GMT -6
I like the fact that Jeff Hardy beat CM Punk although i like Punk as well so didn't really care.
The Miz is awesome but my favourite WWE wrestler's are Randy Orton and Dolph Ziggler.
Favourite TNA Wrestler is Suicide(Kaz) lol
Favourite ROH wrestler is Sterling James Keenan.
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