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Post by tylerjacobs on Jun 16, 2008 2:13:57 GMT -6
What did you guys think of the show?
I think it was pretty damn cool, some very well written matches and some shockers in there too.
Personally I'm annoyed that my involvement was downplayed over the entire show, but eh...I guess I'll have to make up for it.
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Post by Jack Manson on Jun 16, 2008 3:01:20 GMT -6
Wasn't too bad, we've had better shows before. This one seemed a little rushed to me.
There were some shocks like Ace being the culprit running Ortega over etc.
My main gripe was how one sided my tag match was. I know the Hollands are a good team, but so are me and Spike, you gotta give the heels some heat as well guys, can't just build up the faces.
I'll give the show 6/10
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Post by Cyrus Daniels on Jun 16, 2008 3:38:30 GMT -6
Yes I agree with you Manson, it did appear rushed and to me Milo turning yet again on Dave seemed a little predictable...but then again, I've seen it before and most here haven't...
My main concern was a small one, namely the error of how Kathy became her pic base 'Roxxi' as we fled from Knite and also how if I had known Adam was doing a segment at the end of my match, I would have liked to have written Ace's response myself, but I guess I can't complain, I am a Champion again!
For what its worth, it was a good show but there have been better, and I'm glad at least one of you was shocked that it was the dastardly Ace who attacked Ortega, for me it is gratifying to know that I did a good job keeping you all unsuspecting of me!
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Post by tylerjacobs on Jun 16, 2008 4:24:20 GMT -6
I think the main reason that was a shock was the whole thing where Ace was hesitant when The Empire beat down Ortega.
Edit: The main reason I'm annoyed is that Spike played no part in the ending of the match or the reveal of Conrad Jones. Considering how he is a part of my character and his past it pissed me off, as well as Adam ignoring what I asked for.
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Jack Manson
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Post by Jack Manson on Jun 16, 2008 7:37:50 GMT -6
Something I've noticed for awhile now is that there doesn't seem to be much connection from one match to another. Something big will happen like say, Ace being found out, once that segement is over it's forgotten almost immediatley, something that huge deserves to be mentioned again somehwere in the show just to build it up.
But not just big segements like that, it's usually the start of a new match where it just doesn't seem to flow. All the action previous to the match has been forgotten about and if the commentator's were shocked by it, they are happy as larry the next match as if it didn't happen.
The match writers need to have some sort of idea of the ending of the previous match so that they can make the show flow more.
I'm not just talking PPV's, but also Collision as well.
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Post by Dante Cross on Jun 16, 2008 9:19:01 GMT -6
One - It would be nice to do what you ask, then again at the same time, I think it shouldn't happen, because then you would take away whoever was wrestling in the next match.
And I was severely disapointed as well in the Holland/Social D Tag Match, I mean, granted, I don't know who Conrad Jones is, and from the segment I don't care. But Spike is right, Whoever wrote that match, made everything in the match all Holland, and ultimately the payoff was well, not so good, and extremely predictable.
The National Title Match should of went longer, but there is no one to blame but myself on that one, Lance didn't have to take it off my hands.
I liked the 3 Way Match, and not because I was in it. It was something completely different then what you usually see Headline a PPV.
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Post by The Brothers Holland on Jun 16, 2008 11:17:53 GMT -6
I'll be honest... I wrote that match....
But the thing is I wrote it as an ending... there was about two paragraphs of action before my stuff kicked in and It was literally about the ending. I was expecting more and I'm a li'l disappointed by it too because you two deserved to kick my ass something rotten really.
With regard to Spike being kept out of the Conrad thing... you knew what was going down and could've asked me to write something in if you wanted, but primarily this is my angle and my main focus was setting up the Dave vs Conrad scenario. You want a Spike vs Conrad scenario.. that's fine we'll sort it out like we discussed a while back.
Reading that last bit back to myself.. sounds a little asshole-ish... not meant that way at all, seriously.
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Post by Chris Kahne on Jun 16, 2008 12:22:16 GMT -6
Any heat for the tag team match should be shot at me, not Dave. I SUCK at writing tag team matches, and I hate writing works, so yeah...it didn't work out in the long run. Sorry about that to you Spike, Jack and Sam...I could and should have done better, but because I was writing it at about 10-11 pm here, I was tired and not really wanting to write the match. I'm sorry about all of that.
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Post by Dante Cross on Jun 16, 2008 12:25:11 GMT -6
I'll be honest... I wrote that match.... But the thing is I wrote it as an ending... there was about two paragraphs of action before my stuff kicked in and It was literally about the ending. I was expecting more and I'm a li'l disappointed by it too because you two deserved to kick my ass something rotten really. With regard to Spike being kept out of the Conrad thing... you knew what was going down and could've asked me to write something in if you wanted, but primarily this is my angle and my main focus was setting up the Dave vs Conrad scenario. You want a Spike vs Conrad scenario.. that's fine we'll sort it out like we discussed a while back. Reading that last bit back to myself.. sounds a little asshole-ish... not meant that way at all, seriously. Don't feel bad Sam, Spike wants his hands on everything at all times. |
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Post by tylerjacobs on Jun 16, 2008 14:34:34 GMT -6
Well when its something that INVOLVES MY CHARACTERS HISTORY then of course I do, and yes it's sounded assholish, but don't worry I'll ignore my characters ten years of development and wait for you to finish your angle before I do the part we talked about months ago. Nevermind. And Trent...zip it bitch. ON TOPIC: Match of the night, I believe was deservedly the Triple Threat main event...which isn't as rare as Trent thinks, considering there was one not too long ago  |
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Post by Dante Cross on Jun 16, 2008 14:46:57 GMT -6
I mean, the wrestling style in it, It was different then what is usually in Main Event Matches. And come on Spike, don't tell me to zip it, You know it's true  |
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Post by tylerjacobs on Jun 16, 2008 15:16:24 GMT -6
All i want is my rematch. Hollands angle effects my character, im not butting in on it. Sam can testify that, he asked me to be involved and i thought it would have been obvious to give spike a reaction.
And hey i cant help it if DP, Angel and Aj have boners for me.
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Post by Angel on Jun 16, 2008 19:20:58 GMT -6
Honestly, I can wait to beat you Spike, I'm not going anywhere...
I liked the PPV over all, not as good as others, but I don't think you guys should be so harsh about everything. Allot of stuff happens that people want to be a surprise and sometimes it steps on peoples toes, like Talon didn't want to feud with Diamond all month, but I didn't care what he wanted and made him. It just happens, and there's always time to get your stuff in later.
Spike, about the top part, I was kidding, I can't wait to beat you, but if I have to, I will.
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Post by Xavier Williams on Jun 16, 2008 21:58:24 GMT -6
No love for Cage of Death?  *tear* |
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Post by tylerjacobs on Jun 17, 2008 2:28:50 GMT -6
The cod rocked, I just felt the ME was better |
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Post by Adam on Jun 21, 2008 18:42:18 GMT -6
1. There have been very few shows that I felt flowed to my liking. When you have multiple writers, it's hard to keep everything at a good pace, it's just part of an efed show. The only way to get the commentary flowing is to have one person (which of course means me) to write all the commentary for the show, and that would be more work than writing matches.
2. Like Everydouche said, the tag team match was rushed. I was about to write it when Joe finally showed up and said he was working on it. Results probably would have been late if he wouldn't have finally come around.
3. I have no idea who Conrad Jones is....... sorry. You gotta remember, this isn't XHF or XWF, or any other fed that I've never been a part of. If you message me, giving me some back story and telling me how your character would feel, then I'd pump it up very nicely for you, but if you don't.... then I have no idea how to react with your characters on the show, so I just don't do anything, since I might F up what you wanted.
4. Again... this is nCw, as far as I know Milo has never betrayed Dave. I thought it was an amazing twist myself, even though I knew about it for a while now.
5. Ace: It happens, everybody makes a mistake, forgive me.
6. I'm glad you all liked the world title match. I tried to make it stand out somewhat.
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